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#7363

2014-08-13 22:35

Yes, this is a hoax. But what is a fact is that many of the fighters who are now in Isis have previously been members of Syrian opposition militias armed by Western powers against Asad and have undoubdedly also received some training or instruction before they joined ISIS. It is not a conspiracy theory to state that, apart from its extreme salafist-jihadist ideological inspiration, IS is also in part a monster of Frankenstein, indirectly created by the West's attempt to overthrow Asad and to weaken the axis Syria - Hizbollah - Iran. Was Israel involved in that? There is no proof. But it would be logical that their intelligence would at least have been closely following what happened with the Syrian opposition, if not also engaging in manipulations or intervening in some covert ways. But this is a mere hypothesis of course. And now, this geopolitical strategy of the US and allies has exploded in their faces and things have taken a completely different course. The same has happened, of course, in Afghanistan where the mujahedin were once trained and armed by the US. So no conspiracies but the bitter irony of geopolitics, simplified into a 'zionist plot' by many (Middle East politics is full of conspiracy theories of course).

 

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#7384 Re:

2014-08-14 16:29:21

#7363: -  Yes, this is a hoax. But what is a fact is that many of the fighters who are now in Isis have previously been members of Syrian opposition militias armed by Western powers against Asad and have undoubdedly also received some training or instruction before they joined ISIS. It is not a conspiracy theory to state that, apart from its extreme salafist-jihadist ideological inspiration, IS is also in part a monster of Frankenstein, indirectly created by the West's attempt to overthrow Asad and to weaken the axis Syria - Hizbollah - Iran. Was Israel involved in that? There is no proof. But it would be logical that their intelligence would at least have been closely following what happened with the Syrian opposition, if not also engaging in manipulations or intervening in some covert ways. But this is a mere hypothesis of course. And now, this geopolitical strategy of the US and allies has exploded in their faces and things have taken a completely different course. The same has happened, of course, in Afghanistan where the mujahedin were once trained and armed by the US. So no conspiracies but the bitter irony of geopolitics, simplified into a 'zionist plot' by many (Middle East politics is full of conspiracy theories of course).

 This is RIDICULOUS, to say that ISIS is a Frankenstein of the west.

Suppose that the West has sold weapons to the oppositors of Assad, what does it mean, that they have to become ogres and start rounding up people, lay them face down in a ditch and slaughter them?

WHY IS IT ALWAYS OTHER PEOPLE"S FAULT.

 

You know what I think first? The monsters who bury children alive, who behead people, who slaughter a hundred innocent men, are MONSTERS. I don;pt care where they found the weapons, who sold them the weapons, if they were decent people they would not do it. So they are the FIRST GUILTY.

The five pilots of 9/11 THEY WERE THE FIRST GUILTY! They approved to kill thousand innocent people in a go, and they were not from Malta, not from Singapore, they were not Jamaicans. Where did they come from?

And how come that when the twin towers fell everywhere in the Middle east people dance, make parties and distribute candies? Even nowadays you go to Gaza and mention 9/11, they will smile and give you five. Hoiw I know? I was there!

Do you know how many game houses are in my city? How come I don;t give a damn and have never lost 1 Euro in gambling? Because I think, what the fuck, who cares that somebody built a game hall here, nobody is forcing me to enter and gamble. SO I don;t gamble!

Well now, even if they proved that Obama sold weapons to these oagres, they would not be less guilty and less oagres, and I would still have the same despise for all of them. Maybe the only thing that could change would be that I'd start despising those who sold the weapons too, but in no way would it make me change my attitude towards the perpetrators!

You would do good to examine where you stand in this matter too!

Stop saying it is always some "superpower"'s responsibility. Start ascribing the responsibility FIRST to those who lend their hands and their feet to the "superpowers". Without their cooperation the superpowers would be powerless.

Watch out least you end up siding with the oagres (those who factually commit the atrocities). In that case, for me, you would be their supporter.

One thing I know: I saw the kids in Syria burned alive by the nerve gas. Was it Assad, was it the rebels? I don't give a fucking shit, somebody there is a monster, and that person is not a buddist!

Somebody in 9/11 was a monster and it was not a Tibetan.

Somebody when the three kids were slaughtered last month distributed sweet and celebrated in the street, and they are not humanists.

In Nigeria somebody kidnapped thousands girls and then posted a video: he is not an atheist.

At the marathon in Boston a few innocent people were slaughtered, and the doers were not Azidis!

How come there is always something cruel linked to that part of the world...? How come?

 

Ask yourself this question.